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bgvmohan
04-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Hi All,

This is a worried father of a young man who is in the final year of BE / Mech and wants to pursue M.Tech in Robotics in UPES. Has appeared for an interview and believes he has a good chance of getting in. Can anybody tell me the prospects for this course - from the point of view of Jobs & higher studies and ofcourse anything on UPES - Univ of Petroleum Energy Studies - will be very much appreciated.

Thanks in Advance

Vasantha Mohan
bgvmohan@airtelmail.in

shobhitkukreti
04-11-2010, 04:24 PM
UPES, Dehradun ?

bgvmohan
04-11-2010, 08:08 PM
Hi shobhitkukreti,

Yes - University of Petroleum Energy Studies, Dehradun.

Am told MTech in Robotics is being commenced from this year at UPES.

Will appreciate your views on both the place & prospects...

gv

pkshima
04-11-2010, 08:12 PM
Dear Sir,

Depending on where he has done his BE from, his prospects might be good already.

In my personal experience (9 yrs in software), I have found that an M.Tech doesn't really add much value. I am just a BE but have had M.Techs from IIT report to me.
Experience and communication skills take importance over everything else in most cases.
Also, presently, there is no good course available in robotics as far as I know.
So my advise to him would be to instead get a job and follow his robotics dreams in his spare time. A job will give him time as well as money for that.
Ask him to showcase his robotics projects on the internet. He can also find jobs in robotics directly.

Nevertheless, in this age, it is extremely important that a person gets a chance to follow his heart.
Else he will keep complaining all his life and will tell stories to his son about how you stopped him from following his dreams :)

Thanks & Regards,
Pradeep

bgvmohan
04-11-2010, 08:32 PM
Thanks Pradeep.

You are right about me not stopping him from pursuing his interests till they are decent and sensible (with regard to the later, even "partly" is ok, i guess) :D

Once completed, are there any jobs in the core areas for Robotics... How is UPES ?

Forgive my ignorance - i did my BE a long time back in '82 and to me Robotics looks like to be in an infant stage in this country.

gv

shobhitkukreti
04-11-2010, 08:42 PM
I am from Dehradun as well, i have heard good things about the Petroleum related courses at UPES, however robotics may not be that good.

pkshima
04-11-2010, 08:46 PM
To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing called a job/degree in robotics.
The companies working in robotics field dont look out for people with education in "robotics".
Robotics is nothing but a union of several other engineering branches.

So companies still look out for people with education in ONE field.
The chosen person works either on the electronics part of the robot, or mechanical, or software etc.
Its not like all people making a robot have a "degree in robotics".

Regarding UPES, I havent heard about it. Also if they are just starting the course this year, I wouldn't waste my 2 yrs on it.
If it were an IIT, IISC or MIT, things would be different.
Almost all Pvt colleges in India anyways are doing business not imparting education.

bgvmohan
04-11-2010, 10:52 PM
Thanks shobhitkukreti & Pradeep for your views.

Very true about Pvt colleges though a few of them - actually a very few of them - do realise the need to achieve certain quality levels so as to add value to their 'business' and sustain their income levels.

But I believe UPES is a Govt institution.

gv

lolman_returns
04-12-2010, 10:44 AM
Glad that you want to support your son's aim. Have you thought of the prospects of higher education outside India?
Unlike India, Robotics is a well defined Course and Degree outside. Some premier locations are Switzerland, Germany and USA.

If your son can crack the GRE, you wont even have to worry about fees. He will get scholarship and Assistant ships in Good universities.

But quite sadly, just like pkshima said, in India, anything above a Bachelor's degree is considered a silly thing to do.
Experience is counted way more than degree. A diploma with 9 years of experience will be counted above an ME, M.Tech.

So, If you and your son decide for him to settle in India, you rather ask him to gain experience than going for higher education.

MGear
04-13-2010, 05:24 PM
Its really pleasing to see people actually considering Robotics as future carrier.

I too am planning to go for Robotics in MS program from foreign universities via GRE. But at this stage I am confused as for what to do to make my profile better. If any one here knows any specific foreign Universities with Robotics as MS degree then please take some pain in mentioning them here. Having a specified target will help in improving my profile likewise .

Thanx to all.

lolman_returns
04-13-2010, 07:27 PM
http://robotics.nasa.gov/students/robo_u.php

Just remember, Don't come back to India unless you have a PhD so that you can at least get into teaching with dignity.

Ulhas
04-14-2010, 11:47 AM
Don't bother as long as its going to be its second proffession.
If he is interested in starting his own buisness then don't worry at all.
We have large no of engineering students and proffessionals who don't want to do their projects

godslayer
04-14-2010, 10:14 PM
hello mr. lolman.LOL hail from my side... i think you're an intelligent guy who has knowledge in studies abroad. well you see ill be doing my btech this year(hopefully) i am not very bright in studies.. but am initially very much inclined at computers and electronics.. do you mind suggesting a way out for me?

guruk
06-14-2010, 09:40 PM
I wanna pursue M.S in robotics but thats solely on the interest that i have...i have not considered other factors like the prospect, scope esp during this period of recession.Would it be a wise decision to just go for it ?

lolman_returns
06-14-2010, 11:22 PM
Don't go for M.S., rather go for an integrated PhD course if you really want to. Here in US, robotics jobs are mostly limited to green cards and citizens as most of the projects are defense based. But if you are a PhD, you are on a different league altogether. Moreover even during education, an integrated PhD student will have more chances of receiving funding from the university compared to a Master's student and that matters the most.

Secondly, in India, there is no appreciation for higher studies(as you can easily tell from looking at this thread), you are better off gaining experience after bachelors. If you pursue a PhD, then you can atleast join a college of good repute as a faculty and then probably have time, resources and goons to pursue your interest. The "PhD from US" brand works wonders in India, believe me.

guruk
06-15-2010, 09:17 AM
masters and then phD from the US is a costly affair and eventhough that brand works wonder in India, i dont think its magical enough to cover up all the expenses that one would make on education. so, your suggestion is not to go just for a masters in robotics if looking for a job in the US. Then is it good to go for MSEE with robotics as the focus ? cos am basically not a research type who likes to work as a professor.

lolman_returns
06-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Um , I have no clue about the costs that you are talking about. My education was fully funded with stipend. I actually got paid for studying.

MSEE is Masters of Science with Electrical Engineering Majors. Which means you missed my point completely. After masters you will be stuck with the eternal green card (security clearance) issue in US and the even worse "Arey bhai itna kyu padh liya?" issue in India. Moreover Robotics is in its infant stages in India, they dont need specialists, they need someone who can be trained. After MS you are a specialist. I would suggest you stay back in US in that case.